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Socialist Party presidential candidate Norman Thomas

Sunday, May 25, 2008

The MSM kicks it into the bleachers

I'm going to do something that I've never done on TRR before.....say something supportive of Hillary Clinton. This week she answered a question about calls for her withdrawal from the electoral race thusly.....

"My husband did not wrap up the nomination in 1992 until he won the California primary somewhere in the middle of June, right? We all remember Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June in California. You know I just, I don't understand it,".

Of course the MSM got it's shorts in a bunch over her invocation of the "A" word...assassination regarding their messiah, Obama.
Hillary did not suggest that Obama might get killed to explain her staying in the race. She was merely listing all the times, and for various reasons, that the nomination process lasted through the month of June. RFK's death was but one of the list. The MSM delights in hysterically over-interpreting sound bites from politicians, and they've certainly done that here. I'm no fan of Hillary's, but she didn't say anything wrong here.


Freeper with CFS said...

Clinton's remark was easily the stupidest thing I've ever heard in a Presidential election since...McGovern? No, this is worse. Far worse than Kerry's 'global test' or Mondale's taxes gaffe with Reagan.

"She was merely listing all the times, and for various reasons, that the nomination process lasted through the month of June."

You can't possibly believe this. Can you? Really? This is not about the MSM. This is about stupidity...worse.

"she didn't say anything wrong here."

You're missing the point. It's not a question of "wrong." It's a question of "dumb." It's a question of counterproductivity.

It's a question of desperation.

And just for context, I've seen plenty on the Right to indicate that your view is not shared there, either. You are certainly entitled to your opinion on this matter, but it looks awfully lonely to me.

Ed said...

freeper, why was it dumb to include, in a list of historical nominations that went into June, the assassination of RFK? She didn't personalize her comment to the Obamamessiah. I'll allow that it might have been an ill-advised inclusion given the media's tendency to nit-pick every utterance , but to incur the media's hysterical wrath and yours over it is way out of proportion. It's a slow news weekend and most of the media are in the tank for Obama, thus they'll take any opportunity to sink Hillary once and for all.

Don't get me wrong, Hillary is a vile, loathsome, wretched socialist, but fair is fair, and this didn't warrant the reaction it generated.

Freeper with CFS said...

I try to not waste too much of my time on the likes of Hillary Clinton. I have loathed her for a very long time; it's bad enough she represents the state I live in in the Senate.

Her rationalization about some invalid comparison speaks to the stupidity of the remark: Bill Clinton had the nomination 'wrapped up' long before June, that was only when it became 'official.' His competition in that race was long over by that time. I'd have to look it up, but I believe he had become the presumptive nominee by late April. Perhaps early May at the latest. I'd have to look it up. And the dates don't correspond with the primary schedule that existed in 1968, is my understanding. I saw this referenced in a couple of places and, again, I could look it up & provide specifics if you'd like, but it's not a valid comparison, is the point, merely based on the dates. The dynamics of the 1968 campaign on the Dem side were of course far different, not that pointing this out would've made her remark much less dumb than it was.

Your observation about the media's tendency to nit-pick is far more to the point. She's no dummy, yet she chose to speak before she thought about how what she said would play. Such is the nature of politics these days. Oh, and it didn't incur my wrath, as you say. I just find it incredible, as the Clintons have generally been such savvy politicians. This was completely out of character, which is, unless you're Al Sharpton, why it caused the stir it did in the context it did even though Obama wasn't referenced. It's just the dumbest thing I think I've ever heard a serious contender for President, which she was, make. I mean, jaw-dropping, astoundingly stupid.

Put yourself in her place: the media is in the tank for Obama, and she's reduced to playing on obtuse racial angles, albeit extremely cryptically, out of necessity, to try to maintain her support. Do you think a step ahead & try to imagine how something is going to be interpreted? Politicians have to, for better or worse. She put her foot in her mouth to an extent I wouldn't have believed possible. If I know everything I say is going to be nitpicked to death, I'm way more careful than she was, that's for sure. Make any more sense now?

Ed said...

I agree with you freeper....at long last. It was a dumb thing to say but, I maintain that she wasn't pining for the assassination of the Obamamessiah the way the media has portrayed it. Everybody still treats her like she's the smartest woman on Earth(we've been told that since '92). She's a less than average politician when the media aren't on her side.