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Tuesday, March 18, 2014

America recedes to "spectator" status on world stage....it's the Putin show now

Only 3 minutes of thinking would have told me that with the pointless 10-year Iraq war over and the meaningless Afghan misadventure winding down, the US military-industrial complex needs a war somewhere to keep the weapons manufacturing contracts flowing and the Pentagon generals busy planning wars and promoting each other to the next level of general.

Of course American neo-cons like John McCain never needed anything more than a whiff of Soviet aggression or the rumor of human rights indignities somewhere we don't care about, to beat the drum of invasion.

Fortunately they have the Ukraine crisis now as a premise for arming another country against a bully aggressor. But should we be sending weapons to the Ukraine and escalating that situation? Russia will take the Ukraine if Putin wants to take it and any arms we ship over there will only prolong the battle and increase the loss of Ukrainian life, that is if direct US involvement doesn't actually precipitate a Russian invasion just to prove a point, where they wouldn't have invaded otherwise.

You can't argue, as some on Fox News have, that we insisted that the Ukraine abandon it's nuclear ambitions so we have a responsibility to protect her now. This was never going to be a nuclear contest so that argument isn't valid.

Obama is such an empty-suited joke on the international stage now that even the Europeans won't come on board with him to militarily defend the Ukraine if it comes to that. And the US alone sending weapons accomplishes nothing but to provoke Putin.

Unless Obama and the neo-cons in congress are willing to go toe-to-toe with Putin on the ground, which we aren't, we have no cards left to play in this except weak, trans-Atlantic rhetoric and laughable threats of pointless sanctions. Putin holds all the cards and all we can do is spectate.

13 comments:

Isaac A. Nussbaum said...

I find much to like in this post, Ed, but I submit the following for your consideration.

If Obama's actions result in something that makes no sense to you and me, does that mean he is inept? Is it possible that those are precisely the results that the puppetmasters want?

If a third world war is part of the master plan (and it has been for many, many years) isn't anything that advances us toward such a thing "good" from their perspective, no matter how offputting to you and me?

Ed said...

If world-war is indeed their ultimate plan, then Obama is the perfect, effete leader to stumble us toward that.

Do you think these regional "distractions" play into the hands of the Iranians who're no doubt busily spinning up those 10,000 centrifuges? Perhaps the 777 is in Iran as we write this thread, being outfitted to attack Israel.

I didn't come up with that, somebody on the news this morning floated that idea.

Certainly world war would have to be between Russia and the US, no? But over whom would we fight each other? The Ukraine? Israel? I can't envision a plausible scenario.

What I can envision is a one-world government being ushered incrementally in by political correctness and weak leaders like Obama would would gladly cede US sovereignty to the UN without a second thought.

Isaac A. Nussbaum said...

I can't answer all your questions, Ed. Heck, I am still learning myself. Here, however, is one example out of many different individuals either planning, predicting, or working toward WWIII. (Find more by Googleing "WWIII predicted".)

Albert Pike's letter to Mazzini, dated August 15, 1871:

"The First World War must be brought about in order to …."

"The Second World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences between the Fascists and the political Zionists. This war must be brought about so that Nazism is destroyed and that the political Zionism be strong enough to institute a sovereign state of Israel in Palestine. [snip]."

"The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…. … the multitude, … will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time."

Isaac A. Nussbaum said...

Correction, Google "WWIII planned".

Isaac A. Nussbaum said...

Here is an interesting observation from the ever thoughtful Mike Rivero.

"It may be that Obama knows the US economy cannot be propped up any longer and is about to crash. By provoking Russia into dropping the dollar and dumping their Treasury Bills, Obama will be able to blame the crash on Russia to save Wall Street and DC from having to face the music for their crimes and corruptions."

Ed said...

That's entirely plausible, except that Obama's not clever enough to hatch such a plot....perhaps Janet Yellen is or her "bosses" are.

Isaac A. Nussbaum said...

Another interesting tidbit from Mike Rivero:

"The continued provocations by the US are leading us into a war with Russia and possibly China, which the US will be unable to win conventionally. That means that somewhere between the start of that war and final capitulation by the United States Government, the US will resort to their nuclear arsenal and Russia and China will be forced to respond in kind.

"This calculator"
[http://www.nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/] "allows you to select your location and from the various nuclear weapons currently in the Russian and Chinese arsenals, to see just what the US is risking over this argument over which particular piece of paper and ink" [i.e. fiat currency] "the world should be using."

Ed said...

Is Mr. Rivero suggesting that all this world turmoil is about whether the world currency is the dollar, the yuan, or the ruble. (I think those are the right currencies)

What's the end game Isaac? What's all this about? One world government?

Isaac A. Nussbaum said...

Let me answer your question with some questions, Ed.

Are there people in the world who would like to see a one-world government?

Are any of those people rich (and by rich I mean filthy rich, rich beyond your and my imagination)?

Are any of those people in positions of power (either visible or behind-the-scenes powerful)?

Do you recognize the names of the people who have spoken/written in favor of a New World Order/World Government/Global Governance? (Google "NWO quotes" for the names.)

Are they the kind of men (and women) who aggressively go after what they want and who have the mindset that failure is not an option?

Ed said...

Yeah, I believe that there are secretive oligarchs in every country who'd want this if they could cause it, but these plot-lines have been going for generations. The filthy rich aren't long-term thinkers such that they'd set in motion, eventualities that would in 100 years lead to a one-world government. They'd want it to happen yesterday.

Do these people take full and unfair advantage of what does happen either by their influence or by chance? Of course.

Give me some names.

Isaac A. Nussbaum said...

Find out the names yourself. I am not your research assistant. Your reluctance to do your own research tells me that I would be wasting my time to do it for you, anyway.

Ed said...

Heh heh, spoken like somebody who doesn't have any names, just wild-eyed conspiracy theories.

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