“The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of ‘liberalism’ they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.”

Socialist Party presidential candidate Norman Thomas

Monday, August 04, 2014

This cartoon pretty much sums up the Obama administration's approach to the Hamas/Israel business.

And the one below pretty much sums up the Hamas approach to the war. Not sure if it's real, though I can't imagine why else you'd hand a couple of kids on a fence, but the point is that it's eminently believable.

H/T to LegalInsurrection.com.


Isaac A. Nussbaum said...

The Nation*** debunks the claim that Palestinians are using civilians as “human shields”

“Israel made the same argument in its war against Lebanon in 2006 and in its war against Palestinians in 2008. Notwithstanding its military cartoon sketches, Israel has yet to prove that Hamas has used civilian infrastructure to store military weapons.”


Isaac A. Nussbaum said...

Israeli High Court: Israeli Soldiers Used Palestinians as Human Shields 1,200 Times

“Israelis frequently accuse Palestinians of using human shields. That claim is highly questionable. However, in 2005, the Israeli high court found that Israeli soldiers had used Palestinian civilians as human shields 1,200 times in the past 5 years.”

(Source: http://investmentwatchblog.com/israeli-high-court-israeli-soldiers-used-palestinians-as-human-shields-1200-times/#uDwgHUheHy8heHkZ.99)

[Ed, you seem like a reasonably intelligent guy. How is it that you are so gullible when it comes to neocon and Israeli propaganda? - I.A.N.]

Ed said...

Isaac, are you saying the hundreds upon hundreds of rockets fired into Israel from playgrounds, churches, houses, hospitals, etc. in Gaza are the figment of the imaginations of the media....a media that are unabashedly contemptuous of and hostile toward Israel?

Provide a plausible motive for this paradox if you please.

Isaac A. Nussbaum said...

Look, if you have a problem with those reports, Ed, take it up with The Nation and with Investment Watch, not me.

I will say this, the Palestinians were invaded (beginning even before 1948) by a hostile foreign force and they have a right to strike back using any and all means at their disposal. They have no army, navy or air force, no tanks, no artillery, no laser-guided bombs, nothing. They are forced to improvise the best way they can.

If the U.S. had any sense of right and wrong whatsoever our financial and military aid would be going to the Palestinians, not to the Israelis.

Ed said...

So where is the Israel nation-state supposed to be, if not where it is?

Isaac A. Nussbaum said...

I am willing for Israelis to call Atlantis "home". There is nobody there for them to lie to, cheat, steal from, abuse, maim, and kill.

Ed said...

Heh heh, funny Isaac, but a tad impractical.

So are you a two-state solution guy like everybody else?

Isaac A. Nussbaum said...

In all seriousness, I want Israelis to vacate every square inch of land stolen from the Palestinians, I want Palestinians to have the right of return, I want every Israeli to go back to wherever they (or their ancestors) came from (leaving all their personal property behind), and for there to be one state, Palestine. Many Israelis will resist, those persons should be shot. Or hanged. Or both.

Ed said...

What a bizarre statement.

Isaac A. Nussbaum said...

bizarre [bih-zahr], adjective

1. markedly unusual in appearance, style, or general character and often involving incongruous or unexpected elements; outrageously or whimsically strange; odd

Here is what is bizarre, Ed: condoning and supporting the many vile crimes of a people who consider you (yes, you) equal to cattle in the field, who would happily do to you and all other goys what they have done and are doing to the Palestinians. And who, in fact, not only WOULD do it, intend someday TO do it. Who consider you (yes, you) to have been put on this earth to chop their wood and haul their water. (THEIR words, not mine!)

Ed said...

I would be slightly more likely, slightly, to give credence to your argument if the Israelis had "mistreated" anybody except the Palestinians.

It's not the Jews who're hellbent on world domination. That's reserved for the barbaric ideology that is much more closely aligned with the Palestinians.

Isaac A. Nussbaum said...

"...or the willfully ignorant drones who accept whatever they're fed ...."

Ed said...

Isaac, do you get the prohibitive vastness of the media conspiracy required to perpetrate what you allege? You're talking about tens if not hundreds of thousands of people colluding with the evil Jooos.

There aren't three people in places of power who can keep secrets like that, much less thousands.

Isaac A. Nussbaum said...

I am not aware that I have said anything the least bit conspiratorial and certainly nothing that is not not widely known (though, perhaps, not commonly known).

It is true the much of what I have said is not discussed on the evening news but that simply is an argument for turning off the TV and digging out information from other sources.

Isaac A. Nussbaum said...

P.S. I don’t ask that you take my word for anything, Ed. I urge you to, in the words of that famous Russian saying, “doveryai, no proveryai”. Trust, but verify.

One source for doing that is the Israeli-born British jazz saxophonist, novelist, political activist and writer, Gilad Atzmon. Here are quotes from one of his interviews that illustrate that my writings are not the irrational ranting of an incorrigible anti-Semitic.

“It is agonizing to watch the brutality of the Israelis, but it was predictable. Israeli genocidal inclinations are entirely consistent with Jewish supremacist culture….”

“… the Israeli lust for violence and its broad support from Jewish institutions around the world suggests that the motivation to kill and destroy other people is embedded in Zionist culture. Its homicidal impulses may relate to the manner in which modern Jews interpret their sense of ‘choseness.’”

“(Hamas and Hezbollah) are resistance organizations that oppose an illegal occupation force motivated by Jewish racism.”

“There is no Palestinian problem there is a Jewish problem. The problem is attached to the Jews, it is as old as the Jews and it occurs wherever Jews decide to dwell or operate politically and collectively. The symptoms are always analogous; violence with no limit, abuse and oppression.

Essentially, the 20th century was a century of Nakbas: the Holodomor, the genocidal starvation of millions of Ukrainians in the name of ‘collectivization,’ the Yiddish Speaking International Brigade (1936) that burned Catholic Spain in the name of the ‘revolution,’ and the violent expulsion of the vast majority of Palestinians in the name of the Jewish ‘homecoming.’”

Isaac A. Nussbaum said...

I suspect, Ed, that you are confident that you know all you need to know about the Israel/Palestine conflict, that you believe your knowledge is correct in all respects, and is as complete as it needs to be.

That is a shame because if you were to listen to this talk by mild-mannered former journalist Alison Weir**, you would come away knowing that there is much more to this question than the public has been told by the legacy media. None of it obscure, secret or conspiratorial, just not broadcast on the evening news.


**(Executive Director of If Americans Knew, President of the Council for the National Interest, and author of the book "Against Our Better Judgment: The Hidden History of How the U.S. Was Used to Create Israel")

Ed said...

I'm not quite a self-satisfied as you make me out to be. When I return from the gym this afternoon, I'll watch the video, with an open mind, and make my comments.

Isaac A. Nussbaum said...

"I'll watch the video, with an open mind, and make my comments." ~Ed

Oh, and the check's in the mail. Really.

Isaac A. Nussbaum said...

"When I return from the gym ...."

Don't be so impatient, people. Ed will post his comments soon. He is still at the gym. (His gym routine is a long one. Really long.)

Yes, I know, he looks overweight and soft in the photo on the masthead but that is an old photo. He is a really buff guy now. A man's man you might say.

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